tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9844182.post112380123429904350..comments2023-10-08T02:14:46.572-07:00Comments on USF journalism blog: By the Way, This Is What the New Minor Looks Like....J.Michael Robertsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15748774253168313345noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9844182.post-1123903699919566022005-08-12T20:28:00.000-07:002005-08-12T20:28:00.000-07:00Ah, there's the rub. I know you know we know that ...Ah, there's the rub. I know you know we know that a minimum amount of software skill should be acquired. But it is *hard* to cram everything that is needed into the basic classes. Magazine class was excellent because it was production oriented. But USF doesn't have money to produce a magazine, so a magazine would have to support itself. Thus, you need a thriving journalism program before you can think about a magazine. It's tough. That's why I think somehow requiring/coaxing/inveigling students into a couple of 1-unit software courses is something to seriously consider.....J.Michael Robertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15748774253168313345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9844182.post-1123887424320396552005-08-12T15:57:00.000-07:002005-08-12T15:57:00.000-07:00Good point. I don't think you need a full-on class...Good point. I don't think you need a full-on class for computer/software training. It could be folded into one of the courses. I think a lot of the training will come from real-work experience anyway, and some companies will offer CopyDesk training. But it's a good way to prepare graduates as so much of our work is done on computers, everything from research/Lexis-Nexis to making changes in Quark. The magazine class and the Quark skills I developed from it helped me tremendously when I went into actual magazine work.L. Shuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391947044113393388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9844182.post-1123876350049707412005-08-12T12:52:00.000-07:002005-08-12T12:52:00.000-07:00To Big City Les, I respond: How much training for ...To Big City Les, I respond: How much training for each of these. Say four weeks for each? More? Less? If we say four weeks, then we could require two or three one-unit courses. Copy editing gives a little Quark training depending on who's teaching it. Maybe we could get it down to a single 1-unit course covering eight classes over four weeks in which each of these areas is briefly introduced? If you think that's not enough, please say. It is human nature to have very long discussions of of what should be done and then decide to do exactly that thing that you are capable of doing most easily. If what I am proposing is too little, tell us.....J.Michael Robertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15748774253168313345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9844182.post-1123874735325866722005-08-12T12:25:00.000-07:002005-08-12T12:25:00.000-07:00You really need an intro to computers/Mac class. A...You really need an intro to computers/Mac class. Also Quark/InDesign and CopyDesk/QPS. I'm so tired of playing tech support for my coworkers.L. Shuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391947044113393388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9844182.post-1123819443154982862005-08-11T21:04:00.000-07:002005-08-11T21:04:00.000-07:00Gee. Notice the "anonymous" message from someone t...Gee. Notice the "anonymous" message from someone trolling the Web for business. But now for Niall's comment:<BR/><BR/>Well, I agree. In our proposal for a journalism major, one of the capstone courses is Internet magazine. Great thing about that would be that content from audio production, video production, reporting and feature writing -- all forms of content could be used. A principle skill that one would acquire in such a class would be handling and evaluating different forms of content. Seems to me that's a "skill for the future": you are really expert in only one form of content making, but you understand enough about how other forms of content are created to serve as an editor and compiler. I have my doubts about good print reporters being equally good TV reporters, and vice versa. But both could learn to work together on projects and to package the results?....J.Michael Robertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15748774253168313345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9844182.post-1123805649004269392005-08-11T17:14:00.000-07:002005-08-11T17:14:00.000-07:00I think those are all good topics to look at... bu...I think those are all good topics to look at... but I really think a course in writing in the digital age would be key. i.e. writing for websites, updating websites, creating such websites, pictures and designing for websites, because though newspapers are fun to read and all, and nice to hold in one's hands (I learned that from you Dr. R!), a lot more people read websites and a like... NiallAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9844182.post-1123803070233788032005-08-11T16:31:00.000-07:002005-08-11T16:31:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com